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Education or Indoctrination? How the System Shapes Workers, Not Thinkers
Today we will discuss how we unravel the systems that shape our world and challenge the ideas we’ve been taught to accept. Today, we’re diving into the education system in the United States—a system that often feels less like a place to foster critical thinking and more like a factory prepping us for a life of clocking in and clocking out.
We’ll explore the heavy burden of student loan debt, how education is often a financial trap rather than a path to freedom, and the intentional dumbing down of society—whether through outdated curriculums, the erasure of inconvenient truths in history, or the failure to teach critical thinking. Is the education system designed to empower us, or is it just another tool to maintain the status quo?
Welcome to MindTap, the space where collective thoughts meet the power of individuality. Here we champion free thinking, celebrate unique perspectives and foster a community of like-minded souls who dare to question, create and grow together. Hi, I'm your host, latrice, and joining me today is my co-host, nick. Hi, nick, how's it going?
Speaker 2:I'm doing pretty good, latrice, how are you?
Speaker 1:I'm doing pretty good, no complaints. Today it's been a good day, but I had to work, so I'd rather be on a boat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hear you, me too. So you ready to talk about some education?
Speaker 1:I am ready to talk about some education and the lack thereof.
Speaker 2:Oh, we got a great show. So today we're going to be discussing how we unravel the systems that shape our world, challenge the ideas we've been taught to accept. We're diving into the education system in the United States and, let's be honest, it's a system that often feels less like a place to foster critical thinking and more like a factory, prepping us for a life of clocking in and clocking out. We're going to explore the heavy burden of student loan debt, how education is often a financial trap rather than a path to freedom, the intentional dumbing down of everyone in society, whether through outdated curriculums, erasing the inconvenient truths within history, or the failure to teach critical thinking. Is the education system designed to empower us or is it just another tool to maintain the status quo?
Speaker 1:Good question. Stick around as we dissect how school shapes our view of work money in the world and why we need to need to demand better for our future generations.
Speaker 2:So, latrice, do you think the system is really broken or do you think it's working exactly as intended to maintain control?
Speaker 1:I think it's working exactly how it's intended to maintain control, and the reason why I say that is because of how we're set up to go from the classroom to the workplace. Nobody is taught to be free thinkers.
Speaker 2:When you look at the way that the education was set up, the education system and how it was put into place by the biggest billionaire from back in the day of John Rockefeller. He created the system intending to create wage slaves. And here we are today. How many people do you know that have to go to work on a day-to-day basis just to get by?
Speaker 1:Most of the population, majority of the population, me, you, people listening to us.
Speaker 2:Everyone, except the handful of billionaires that are out there and the multimillionaires right.
Speaker 1:Exactly. I mean, that goes back to its work and how they intended it to work. I think one of the main reasons why I say that is because of, like the bills, the time you need to be at school, like all the rules and regulations I put on you from kindergarten, pre-k.
Speaker 2:They really do start tamping down on your, your creativity. They really start drilling this system into you from the point of time, like you said, when you're in kindergarten, you've got those particular hours, you've got the bells, and I mean we've learned about Pavlov and the dogs and how they trained him or how he trained them with the bells to. You know, start reacting in a certain way at a certain time. You've got the school lunches, you've got the all right, it's time to go home.
Speaker 2:The morning bell, yeah you got the morning bell, the bells between classes. It is pre-conditioning you to be at a certain point in time at a, I'm sorry. It's pre-conditioning you to be at a certain place at a certain point in time without even thinking about the reason why you're doing it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I mean every day, and a lot of us are on call. There are a lot of us where you've got to answer the phone, you've got to answer that email, you got to answer that team's message. It doesn't matter what time of day, night, what day of the week it is, you were tied to it.
Speaker 1:I mean, and most of us have been conditioned to work that way. It's just a way of society, especially here in America.
Speaker 2:School really grinds you down to become that ideal worker when you really think about it. That's the purpose of school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to be doers, not thinkers. When you really think about it, that's the purpose of school. Yeah, to be doers, not thinkers. Warehouse workers, blue-collar workers yeah.
Speaker 2:White-collar workers too. All they want is for you to be sitting, whether it be on the forklift, at your desk, in your truck, wherever it might be. They don't want you thinking, because when you're thinking, you're not making them money.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and that's not. That's not how it's designed to work.
Speaker 2:Exactly it's designed to work to where?
Speaker 1:you make them money Right, even like the number of hours that you be in school. Like school is really like an eight hour day almost and you know it mimics the workplace, like as far as you go to lunch at a certain time. Everybody has a lunch hour or lunch time to go to lunch. My daughter used to always complain about that morning bell and I feel like it's a way that the bell ringing and stuff is a way to kind of force the students to be compliant with rules and regulations.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no doubt you know what was I talking about just a minute ago with you know, they want to stifle your thinking. They want you just reacting. You are being conditioned from the point in time that you show up in school and kindergarten and it's slow because as young children, you're all over the place. You're very creative, you know. Just think about when, uh, when you had your, your daughter, and she was super young, uh, walking through the grocery store, when I was doing that with my kids, they were looking all over the place.
Speaker 1:Imaginary friends yeah imaginary friends.
Speaker 2:They're pointing out things that no one is looking at. Yeah, because they are totally free thinking, and school conditions you to look for words and then start deciphering what those words are. You know, I remember specifically one time in particular. We're walking through the grocery store and my son he was probably three at the time he's talking about Elmo, and I was like where do you see Elmo? There was a balloon that had gotten loose from. You know, the display that they had.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And he was hanging up all the way up there at the ceiling. I never even thought to look at the ceiling because I've been conditioned to the things that are at eye level, the things that are at eye level are the ones that they want you to buy.
Speaker 1:Right. No exploration Like it's just keep everything focused right in front of you, right in your face, Right? No exploration Like it is just keep everything focused right in front of you, right in your face. No looking around to see if there are some other options versus what they're putting right in your face.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Which you know cuts down on the creative thinking aspect of it all. And how do you think the lack of freedom to explore our individual interests in school compared to the demands of the job market? Because you go to school to get trades, you go to school to get certain degrees in certain areas so you can be able to get a job, and normally a lot of people are not doing jobs that they actually love doing. You know they're doing it because it pays a certain amount of money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, how many school bus drivers do you know that actually do it Cause they love driving a school bus?
Speaker 1:This is true. I'm working in a plant, are driving 18 wheelers, are teaching.
Speaker 2:And then what they do is they? They try to have you come up with ways that what you're doing is more than what it actually is. You know, oh, I'm not just driving a school bus, I am. I am, you know, shuttling children back and forth to to get that education, so that they can become something more, so that they can do that. They want you to try to put more importance on what they have you doing, so that you feel as though you are actually contributing something to society.
Speaker 1:And I mean I guess you are from a capitalism aspect, but not necessarily, like you said, it's not all dressed up how they want you to make it. Like you said, overemphasizing the importance that sounds so bad, overemphasizing the importance of these positions because in actuality they are important. They are important, but they only important because they feed the system.
Speaker 2:And don't even get me started with the test scores, because that's all they're teaching to now is memorizing specific things. They don't want you thinking, they just want you memorizing what they want you to know so that you can spit it back out, so that when they say, how many widgets did you make today out on the factory line number four, you can tell.
Speaker 1:And don't even get me started on test scores. While I was preparing for this episode, I came across some statistics from CBS. That was like you know how everybody does the every student does, like the annual testing. And they tested fourth graders and they tested eighth graders, and the fourth graders would have been in kindergarten around COVID time and the eighth graders would have been in fourth grade around COVID time time and the eighth graders would have been in fourth grade around COVID time. And so it said that 40 percent of fourth graders aren't even reading to reading to fourth grade reading levels, and that, uh, eighth graders are becoming less proficient in reading as well. And said that 70 percent 70 percent of eighth graders are not proficient in reading and 72 percent of eight graders are not proficient in math.
Speaker 2:like that is insane it is, and we continue to have this focus on education within our country and what's happening as a result? We continue to go further and further down the rankings of world education, continuing to go further and further down the rankings of world education, continuing to go further and further down because they are just trying to get those test scores up and by test scores, those again are the things that are curated to try to make you that ideal worker. We are losing to China, we are losing to several different countries over in Asia, europe, and it's one of those things where it is an intentional dumbing down of our society and it's been going on for decades.
Speaker 2:It's been going on for decades. Actually, the whole intent of this system was built to make us not question things, to just do what they want us to do and, frankly, it pisses me off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not having any critical thinking skills. They don't want you to critically think.
Speaker 2:Um, so yeah, if we did have those critical thinking skills, we would be looking to maybe actually look at the blue collar right, Like some of those blue collar jobs, because you don't have to go into tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt and your job is not going to become automated.
Speaker 1:That's true Once you get those trades. Once you get those trades and you can then use those to go into business for yourself. Uh, you don't. Like you said, you don't have to go into financial debt in order to get a trade. And you know trades used to actually be in school. You know trades used to be in school and they used to be free. I remember because I was in high school and all these trades electrician, plumbing, cooking, sewing everything was free. But now you have to go to a trade school and pay for it, which is still cool. It's still cheaper than going to a four-year degree, because the four-year degrees is what gets you in that financial debt with those student loans.
Speaker 2:So you brought up a really good point about if you are a blue collar worker. It's much easier for you to become a business owner, for you to go into business for yourself, as opposed to a white collar worker where you're over there you're working spreadsheets, you're doing things like that, but with the blue collar, which they are intentionally not pushing and make no mistake, that is intentional that they are not pushing that because they don't want you having your own business. They don't want you going out and trying to make money for yourself. They do not want you having that kind of freedom, because when you have freedom, it takes away from their control.
Speaker 1:Because when you have freedom it takes away from their control. Yeah, but you would think that they would, because if you look at the price of college, it has skyrocketed. And when you think about the cost of college you would think they want you to get more trades. Because you know, more people can go to school. Because more people. You know, with these college rates, most people can't afford to go to college without going into student loan debt. Most people do not have the opportunity to go to college and get these educations, pay that money. So you opt out to go and go to trade school. But if you're in school and they're not offering you those said trades, then where are you at at and who is that really affecting?
Speaker 2:Well, the the thing that you got to keep in mind and you said it, you said it in there is that, um, with the going to the four-year university, you know the thing that they are trying to do. It has become a business. It is no longer about education. The higher education system has nothing to do with you becoming educated. What it ends up having to do is making the banking system even richer and enslaving you to having to work for someone else just to pay off that $60,000, $70,000, $80,000 loan that you had to take out.
Speaker 2:In some cases, you're looking at $100,000, $150,000. If you go on to higher education, if you want to become a doctor, if you want to do anything like that, some of those folks are going into debt $250,000, $300,000. And, yeah, they're getting paid well when they get out, but at what cost? They're working two shifts straight, sometimes they're working around the clock and, yeah, they're making $150,000 plus a year. Don't get me wrong, but you're paying that interest. You're paying all of that. You also now have a mortgage. You are doing all kinds of things and it is intentionally set up to trap you for years, for decades in some cases, to trying to pay them off.
Speaker 1:And you'll be surprised. Yes, yes, doctors are said to make a lot of money, but you'll be surprised how many of them those first eight to 10 years where they really just breaking even. Most doctors did not come out the gate making crazy money like this. So they're. They're spending years paying, trying to pay off those loans before they actually start making money. Just that's just one example. Um, and then you got to think about it. You take all this, you take on all this student loan debt, um, loan debt, the. You know the toll that it takes on your psyche to be in that much debt. And a lot of times we were talking about doctors, but shoot, it's people who got one hundred thousand dollars and they ain't making one hundred thousand dollars at their job.
Speaker 1:After being out of college for 10 years and they still not making one $100,000, but they're $100,000 in student loan debt. How does that happen?
Speaker 2:Education is not about education, it is about control and it is about also making money to make more money off of your labor, because you were selling your time to try to pay off the debt that you incurred from trying to get that education so that you could have a decent pay.
Speaker 1:You got to love the irony behind it, right, like how a system that promotes education as a path to success also provides a profit from the student suffering. Because that's all it is, you go into debt. They say, oh, this is the way you, what you make, this is the way to success, this is how you make money, this is how you get a good paying job. But most people, like I just said, isn't making that money and they may not ever make that money. Have you seen the economy?
Speaker 1:So, you know it's like feeding you the carrot of this is the way to success, but then punishing you for or putting you in a position where you don't have the means to pay that back. So, like I said, go, take that psychological toll on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I recently went to a college night at a local high school because I've got a son who's in high school and they're talking about oh yeah, you know, if you take this path in college, you can expect to be making they said, like $85,000 for this particular job. All right, so that is training the kids. All right, if I go to school for this particular major, I'm going to come out and I'm going to be making eighty five thousand dollars. That's not the case. They're they're they're talking career averages.
Speaker 2:Ok, so what that means is they're looking at From entry level until expert level. Right average is eighty five thousand dollars. Until expert level, the average is $85,000. So these kids are going into tens of thousands to a hundred plus thousand dollars worth of debt with the expectation that they're going to come out and they're going to be able to pay that loan off within a couple of years, make an 85K, when we know damn well they're going to go in at entry-level pay of $45, 45 to $50,000 a year pre-tax, before any of your benefits, before any of that stuff. They are selling you a lie hook, line and sinker and all of us are falling for it because we have been trained from the point in time that we entered school and kindergarten to trust all of this just crap and then those are all good points.
Speaker 1:And then you think about if we're going to look at it from a different angle. If we talk about, like, income levels and the educational inequality, I'm not so. Not only are they dumbing you down, not only are you not being critical thinkers, not only is college expensive, but everybody ain't even getting the same education.
Speaker 2:I know it is insane to me when I look at the disparity within zip codes and what kind of an education you're actually getting, based upon what the property tax value is in your particular area. You live in an area where there's a lot of apartments. You ain't getting a good education. It's not happening because they are underfunded schools and it's done intentionally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I know, they have something called the school tax in my community and I always wonder, like, like, school tax, what is that? And then, after I did some research on it, I know now that that school tax, based on your, based on your zip code, determines how much of your tax dollars get funded back into the school and, based on your, you know, based on that, it determines your education. It determines if you get the, get a laptop to take home or do you still working on a laptop in a computer, I mean in a um, in a classroom, like some some students taking apple's, uh, mac computers home, some people taking, you know, the, the cheaper computers home. And it's because of the taxes and it's because the fact that people aren't getting the same education, like the lack of funding.
Speaker 1:Um, like I said, talking about trades, we have lack of funding in arts, lack of funding in science. Um, you can tell from the different zip codes, the extracurricular activities. I know you've seen it before where one school comes from a good area and they have the nice uniforms, the nice shoes, and then you see the people who not come from such great areas. It's like they have the nice uniforms, the nice shoes, and then you see the people who not come from such great areas. It's like they have the stuff that's left over that the last six years of seniors been using.
Speaker 2:And the crazy thing about that is that most of those schools where they're using like the hand-me-downs, they're the ones that are pulling in all kinds of revenue because they come from impoverished areas where the students know that. They know that their ticket out is athletics. That's their ticket out because their education is crap because of the lack of funding that goes into the schools. So those are the schools where you're winning state championships. You're doing things like that, right, but none of them can write their fucking name on a piece of paper.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and that's the thing. And that's another. That's another trap is is setting you up Cause like, really, what's the chances of you going to the NBA or going to the NFL or any of that? But that's another trap is like they show you oh, your only way out is to go do this in certain communities. Because in certain communities, you know, they said you have to be lawyers, doctors, you're taking college courses in high school, you're taking college courses in the 10th grade, and then others are in other areas. It's like you know, hopefully you graduate and once you do, bye.
Speaker 2:And the thing about that, too, is, yeah, they're selling one thing or the other. It might be athletics, it might be hey, you got to go to college. But you know as well as I do, Latrice, and to all the viewers out there, all the listeners, 80% of us are not going to escape that debt threshold. So, whether they are training you to be that lawyer and you went to Harvard and you went into debt $500,000, the chances of you being the next Johnny Cochran very slim. You're going to be working like like a trade. Oh man, You're going to be working like like a trade. Oh man, you're going to be working like a trademark law yeah.
Speaker 2:You're going to be the public defender, if you're even in defense, because that's where the money's going to be. You're, you're like doing trademark law. You're doing, you know, you're, you're, you're the one that's going through the legislation that's been made for this person to sue this person in some kind of a civil suit. You're not making millions of dollars a year. Yes, you're making more than the kid who was the star athlete in high school that didn't quite make the cut to get the scholarship and couldn't afford to go to college. Yes, you are making more than them. Yes, you are more advantaged than them, but you are still a slave to that debt that you incurred and you are almost never going to be able to pay it off before you're in your forties or fifties and at that point you're trying to pay for your own kids to go to school. The cycle never ends the cycle.
Speaker 1:never ends the cycle never, ends, it never ends.
Speaker 1:And then like um, like I was also, I also feel like the technology aspect that is different and the advanced program placements is different and how when you set up, when you set the system up like that, it creates a cycle of poverty, it creates a cycle of people dropping out of high school and it limited social mobility, honestly, but only for groups of people. And that's where I have a problem when it comes to the taxes and how they're given to the schools. And then I also you mentioned something earlier about money going into the schools. Like, does all the money actually go into the school?
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely not. It does not. You know it doesn't, and you know one of the things that a huge disservice to the education system and I think you can tell from the way I'm talking about it, I'm not a big fan of our education system as it is no.
Speaker 1:no, it definitely needs some rehab.
Speaker 2:But my kids have come home telling me the kind of garbage that they are teaching them in history classes and it infuriates me.
Speaker 1:Oh, you mean the rewriting history part?
Speaker 2:At best they're not even rewriting it. They are just throwing out what actually happened and they're putting a bunch of garbage in its place to make people intentionally ignorant to the things that have gone on within our country over the course of the last 250, 300 years yeah, at the end of the day, that's what it all boils down to race and class and depending on where you fall it and it depends on how you benefit from it I mean you.
Speaker 2:you would probably be surprised, but probably not. Some of the listeners might be, but at the school that my children attend there is a Georgia history class and it is in particular discussing the history of Georgia. Sometimes they get into larger topics history of the South, things like that they're talking about. The Civil War was only about states' rights, was only about states' rights. They are saying that the bloodiest, the deadliest war that was ever fought in this country more people died in the Civil War, more Americans died in the Civil War than in World War I, world War II, any of the other wars that we have fought in. They were saying that that was solely about states' rights. They mentioned nothing about slavery. They mentioned nothing about any of the real things that that war was about that.
Speaker 2:it was really about yeah, and so when they told me it was about states' rights, I said states' rights explicitly to do what?
Speaker 1:And that's what we need. That's what we need in our household as parents. We got to teach our kids the truth because, as we can see, the school, yeah, is teaching them how to be workers. It's teaching them all math, little math, little English, whatever. But they're not teaching the truth, especially when it comes to history in this country, or finance, like why don't we have finance classes? Why don't we have stock market courses? Why don't we have banking courses? Why don't we have budgeting? And it needs to not be a certain amount of students. Oh, you're going to go into this program. It needs to be a universal education. Everybody needs to be financially educated.
Speaker 2:They don't teach you that, because if you know that you've got the tools that you need to no longer feed their greed, you no longer need to work for them, you no longer have to enrich them because you have the power then to enrich yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's how it should be though.
Speaker 2:It is how it should be.
Speaker 1:It's enough for everybody to have a piece of the pie. Like it annoys the hell out of me because, like, yeah, I know why they aren't doing it, but the problem is that they aren't doing it. That's the problem.
Speaker 2:I know why too, but most people don't. And if they do, they're not doing anything about it because they've made it in America to where you are just comfortable enough. Just comfortable enough. You've got your pacifier, and by that I mean you've got your entertainment, you've got your cell phone, you've got your television, you've got your streaming services. Why am I going to get up and actually do something about this when, yeah, I might not live in the best area of town, I might not have all the newest technology, but I've got enough to keep me pacified. And that's exactly where they want you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, and I've been guilty of it I mean, most people I know are guilty of it but it's got it. We got to make a change. It's got to be a change in our education system. It's gotta be a change in what we value as a society. It's gotta be a change in just getting a bit bigger piece of the pie, and that starts with education. As they say, uh, you can take a lot of things from me, but you can't take my education. So education is key. It's key to changing the future.
Speaker 2:Education is key. We've got to make sure that that education is actually a valuable education. It's something that is enriching us.
Speaker 2:It is enriching our minds, it is putting us in a position to where we are able to make some of those calls that you were talking about, to where you can jump into finance. You are financially liter. That means from the bottom to the top and that, yes, there will still be a bottom. I'm not ignorant to that. Oh no, there's still going to be a bottom. But that bottom doesn't have to be where it is today from a financial standpoint. It doesn't have to be poverty line. It doesn't have to be below poverty line, right, have to be below poverty line. There is enough for everyone to be doing well.
Speaker 2:And I'm not talking about redistributing wealth. I'm not talking about trying to go into a communist form of government. What I'm talking about is everyone being able to support themselves, and right now we've got so much corporate welfare that's out there. It makes me sick. Oh yeah, and by that I'm talking about and you've seen it all too many times, I know you have Walmart paying their workers trash wages, trash wages. They cannot support themselves. So what happens? They have to go into the system Now. They've got to sign up for SNAP, they got to sign up for all these various social programs the government is trying to get rid of, while the owners of those companies are getting tax benefits.
Speaker 1:Tax benefits making record, record profits, record profits.
Speaker 2:And keeping these employees just below the threshold of full-time workers so they don't get any of the benefits that they should be getting. They keep them just below so that they don't have to offer them health insurance. They don't have to offer them any of that, and they are rewarded for it by creating burdens to the society. And when I say burdens to the society, I'm talking about because these rich, billionaire, multimillionaire folks that own these corporations have all these tax shelters. Yet we are robbing social security. We are robbing the taxes that the middle class and the upper middle class pays to pay for this corporate welfare system that we have set up, and it starts in our education system.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I can't agree with you more. Like I just feel like we just, with all that you just said, I just feel like we need to get back to critical thinking. If they're not going to teach it in the school, parents, we need to teach it at home. We need to start questioning the system. We need to stop being passive in the classroom when it comes to our kids. We need to be showing up to parent teachers meetings. We need to be advocating for returns of hands-on learning in the school, trades, in the school finance, entrepreneurship, hands-on learning in the school trades, in the school finance, entrepreneurship, investing.
Speaker 1:We are the people we can get these things to change. We just got to come together, be more active, because college is expensive and if that's the only way to success, I mean most people ain't going to make it, so we need to. Other people need other options. They need trades and they need to know how to do entrepreneurship and be in business for themselves, because everybody can't go to college. And then what is the value of college these days? I'm not saying it's invaluable, but like, really, if you get a skill set in this day and time, you can really go and get a job with the skill set.
Speaker 2:Yet I want you to have the degree, but if you got enough skill set, you can get the job without the degree. And you see, what they've done with college is back when college first started, they were not teaching a particular curriculum. They were not teaching to a particular test. They weren't teaching those kinds of things. What they were doing is they were sitting around in rooms and they were debating things. They were debating, they were teaching and through the debate you were learning critical thinking skills. You were learning to take alternate viewpoints and see if, hey, maybe I can incorporate some of that, or hey, I don't agree with that. But now I understand the other side, so I know how to work with this individual or with people who are like-minded to that particular individual, this individual or with people who are like-minded to that particular individual Right.
Speaker 2:That is totally gone now. All they are doing right now is trying to teach you. Well, they're not even trying to teach you necessarily. They're just trying to get your money. Right At the end of the day, they're trying to get your money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're trying to get your money. That college is really like you said. It's a a business, and I just feel like we need to just get back to the importance of our grassroots efforts. Demand change, vote locally, like I said, show up to the schools, because this cannot continue to happen. 40 percent of fourth graders are not reading on their reading level. 72 percent of eighth graders are not proficient in math. I'm just reiterating it because this is where our education system is. That is crazy.
Speaker 2:And if you think it's not intentional, you need to do some more research.
Speaker 1:Thanks. Well, I think there's been a good episode. I feel like we made some good points. At the end of the day, to sum it up, the elite is the top one to five percent. They're going to be fine. Their children are going to be fine. They go to the best schools with the best education and don't be educated and don't be educated. But they still somehow get to be in a one to 5%. But we're not asking for half because, like you said, it's not going to be a level playing field. We're just asking for more of the pie.
Speaker 1:I feel like we deserve it. We're the people that keep the businesses going. We're the people that keeps purchasing and consuming so your business can keep growing. We just got to make some changes, guys. We got to people that keeps purchasing and consuming so your business can keep growing. We just got to make some changes, guys. We got to make changes with our dollars and we got to get back to critical thinking. We can't let social media direct us and direct our kids. We really got to nip this in the bud and get this turned around. It needs to start in our living rooms with our own kids and then, like I said, go to those parent-teacher meetings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a very good point. You bring up several key things there. They're all things that we talked about within this episode and I hope that the listeners are getting something from this and, if you feel the way that we feel we need to do something about it, we really need to try to get out of that comfort zone. We really need to try to get out there and do something to enrich the lives of our children, because they are the future. They've got to have that education and it can't cost an arm and a leg and enslave them to years of indentured servitude trying to work it off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's time to break the cycle. It's time to break the cycle and we would like for you all to share your stories, because I know you all have children out there. Most of us have definitely been through the education system. What do you think that we can do as a society to change? What can you do locally? What can we do at higher levels? What do you all think? What are your thoughts on how can we change this? How can we get it by the horns and turn this thing around? Because, like Nick just said, the children are our future. I know it sounds cliche, but the children are our future and right now, with those statistics, the future is looking real great right now.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Thank you all for joining us for this episode talking about education, different zip codes, different groups of people. We thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking to you all in the next episode, but don't forget to like, share, subscribe and drop in the comments and let us know what you would like to talk about next time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Hit us up on social media share subscribe and drop in the comments and let us know what you would like to talk about next time. Yeah, hit us up on social media. Let's get out there and try to get some grassroots movements started. That's the only way we're going to change this, because you can guarantee and bet on the people who are in control right now. They got no interest in changing. It's on us to change it and we got to get together and make it happen.
Speaker 1:Exactly Bye.